Name! That! Author! (Long, yes, but this is a goodun, so do not cheat)

“Pope John [XXIII] did what the Risen Lord did. The Church has been behind closed doors for centuries. He said: ‘Open the doors! There is a world waiting for salvation. Go into it!’ The Lord is again appearing behind the closed doors of the council as we debate and discuss, and there is no stepping back as we hear Him say, in the words of the Apocalypse: ‘I have set before you an open door, and let no man close it.’ …

“This council … is the battleground of what might be called a communionistic revolution. There is a war not against truth, which is revealed and held in common, but against entrenched modes of thinking, patterns of administration, nationalistic hoardings and antiquated mental heirlooms. Those who are fashioned in these molds often are no more willing to give them up than the rich landowners of Latin America.

“But from all over the world came the communionists with a new revolution, asking that the Church adapt itself to the world, enlarge its offices to embrace all nations and acknowledge that there are other civilizations besides the Western.

“This revolution took place in the council between a minority group with entrenched ideological capital and a new majority group made up of many nationalistics.

“We must understand that there can be not only a capitalism of money, but also of ideas. The communionistic revolution now is dividing the intellectual wealth and distributing it to the Church all over the world. …

“[T]the majority group gave a breath of fresh air to the stuffy air of the past centuries, enlarged the horizons of those who lived close to the Mediterranean and made them conscious that the men and women outside the Church are not enemies but friends.

“The two groups — the minority and the majority — are like a weight on a flywheel. Without the weight the flywheel would fly off the axle; with the weight the flywheel goes faster. The two mentalities are necessary like the subject and predicate of a sentence.” …

“I think … the one note that rang out in the council was that the Church is to be the Church of the poor. The magnificent gesture of the Holy Father in surrendering his triple tiara symbolized it. The council actually has discovered another presence of Christ. Besides the Eucharistic presence in the tabernacle there is also the presence of Christ in the poor.

“This affects also the priesthood. Priests will no longer be like gasoline station attendants caring only for the regular clients who come in weekly for refueling.

“They will also be explorers digging for the Holy Spirit in the souls of their fellowmen. It likewise affects religious congregations inasmuch as it will cure them from organizational sclerosis, as they begin to have dialogue with one another and serve with bishops for the glory of the entire Church. …

“It really is like a new Pentecost. Each was going his own way. Now they have, as the Acts of the Apostles state, ‘one mind and one heart.’ …

“The doors have been opened wide, much too wide to be closed again.”


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14 Responses to Name! That! Author! (Long, yes, but this is a goodun, so do not cheat)

  1. No clue, but I am very curious. And this mindset is so foolish. If I had the garden of Eden, I suppose the best way to protect it and engage people with its beauty would be to pot up all the plants and ship them out all over one by one. Because there is one set of positives in the world, and we must progress, progress, progress!

  2. This is a piece from the NOR discussing Leo Tolstoy. Funny how Tolstoyan Pope Francis is. And that’s no compliment.

  3. Oops, no, I commented on the wrong thread!

    The above quotation is by none other than Bishop Fulton Sheen, care of a fascinating site called Vatican II at Fifty –

  4. Huh, never would have guessed Bishop Fulton Sheen! And yet I still stand by my statement, even if I do have the advantage of seeing fifty years of the Council “working.”

    Giving up your proper trappings and going out to see the poor instead of inviting them to see you just strikes me as a rich man feeling guilty because he knows he has too much to be a proper steward. A poor man often wants a safe haven, and for them to come to your home and have you treat him as any other man (not giving less, giving more, or “dressing down) usually does more for his dignity than less.

    And of course while that’s not always true, to not be able to consider it is to open the door to abuses much more than to fresh air.

  5. Th eFathers of the Second Vatican Council were THE best Catholic Fathers ever.


    They were THE most Blessed ever.

    They were the ones who were MOST in love with Christ.

    They were THE ones MOST ready to fulfill His Mission.

    Don;t ale my word for it, those are the words of Pope Blessed Paui VI at the close of the second session of the counci:

    Let us rejoice, my brothers, for when was the Church ever so aware of herself, so in love with Christ, so blessed, so united, so willing to imitate Him, so ready to fulfill His mission? Let us rejoice, my brothers, for we have learned to understand one another and to deal with one another, and, though we were almost strangers, through the process of union we have become friends. Have we not profoundly experienced here the words of St. Paul which accurately define the Church: “Now you are no longer strangers and newcomers, but rather fellow citizens of the saints and members of the household of God, built, as you are, upon the foundations laid by the Apostles and the prophets, where the very cornerstone is Christ Jesus” (Eph. 2, 19-20)?

    If you can’t stand the humility get out of the council.

  6. Branch says:

    Bishop Sheen?! I don’t understand. How can saints have gone along with this and essentially thrown other saints under the bus?

  7. “If you can’t stand the humility get out of the council.”

    Ha! That sums it up.

    Seriously, though, language like that always feels like daring evil forces to act. I suppose the same could be said for making the papacy too “regal” but if that’s what you’re saying when you make yourself a pauper…

    And slightly tangential, okay Pope Francis claimed he didn’t want to go to the Vatican concerts, but was he aware that they’d keep his empty chair prominently in place?

  8. I say he knew full well how it would look. He is a master of “optics”. The Catholic Obama. My latest piece at One Peter Five is about the semiotic revolution that he apotheosizes:

  9. Branch. If V2 did that to a solid Bishop, just imagine what it did to the ordinary Ordinary.

    It seems clear to me that the Bishops and periti at V2 really did think they were the cat’s pajamas and the ecclesiastical enthusiasm and all of the torment and tumultuous times made them go all cray cat in full monty mode.

    If you have read past councils, you know that such arrogant boasting of one’s spiritual acuity and spiritual prowess is completely at odds with Tradition.

    Fulfill His mission of Sanctification, Salvation, and conversion of the nations?

    Pull the other one. His mission has been abandoned in favor of a naturalistic agenda.

    Lord, how many of our Prelates now retain the fullness of the Catholic Faith?

    The facts belie every single indefensible word spoken by he-who-will-sonn-be-canonised.

    Continuity, continuity, and all is continuity.

  10. Branch says:

    That’s what I don’t understand: it is one thing for a solid Bishop to be duped, but it is another for a host of them (we must assume they are indeed solid, I guess) to have been canonized, isn’t it? For that seems to me to place a stamp of approval on what happened. And, more deeply, it calls into question all that came before, because if V2 is somehow synonymous with holiness, then what do we make the holiness that preceded it, holiness which was very much at odds with “the world,” among other things?

    I’ve read elsewhere that canonizations are infallible, and I am willing to accept that out of obedience to the Church, but it doesn’t clear up any of these questions. It makes them that much more pressing.

  11. Man, that’s a good article, Eliot. I’m going to read it again later today. And yeah… I myself don’t want to go back and review the time between they canceled the third concert, embarrassed, and others invited Patti, elated.

    My line of thought: God in His Mercy has given us incredibly weak leaders to warn us that now is the time to stop taking civilization for granted, and now is the time to prepare for the next dark age. Reeally would like a reason to stop being able to pour cement into that line of thought.

  12. Danielius says:

    I was going to go for a young Joseph Ratzinger or somebody else (rightly or wrongly) currently recognized as a staunch conservative being swept along by the Humblest Council Ever (tm to MJY). But archbishop Sheen?!? He was an old man by then, man who lived through two world wars and this is what V2 reduced him to? This is like the Catholic equivalent of an elementary schoolgirl attending a boy band concert! What was in the water in the 1960s and 1970s?

  13. Tantumblogo says:

    Not all drank the spiked Communion wine at VII. From the diary of VII peritus to Cardinal Ottaviani, Msgr. Joseph Clifford Fenton:

    “I do not think that any little work on our part is going to bring good to the Church. We should, I believe, face the facts. Since the death of [Pope] St. Pius X the Church has been directed by weak and liberal popes, who have flooded the hierarchy with unworthy and stupid men. This present conciliar set-up makes this all the more apparent. [Fr.] Ed Hanahoe, the only intelligent and faithful member of [Cardinal] Bea’s secretariat has been left off the list of the periti. Such idiots as [Mgr. John S.] Quinn and the sneak [Fr. Frederick] McManus have been put on. [Fr. George] Tavard is there as an American, God help us. From surface appearance it would seem that the Lord Christ is abandoning His Church. The thoughts of many are being revealed. As one priest used to say, to excuse his own liberalism, which, in the bottom of his heart he knew was wrong, ‘for the last few decades the tendency in Rome has been to favor the liberals.’ That is the policy now. We can only do what we can to overt an ever more complete disloyalty to Christ.

    “They plan to leave off this television nonsense in a day or two, and then take up the Church Unity then. That will be a disaster. If I did not believe God, I would be convinced that the Catholic Church was about to end.” (Nov. 23, 1962)

    “The statement of the Council is not a theological text book. At the same time, however, a declaration by a council can cause confusion or finally can actually be harmful when even though there is no error about faith or morals in it, the statement passes over Truths which are, and which have long been generally been recognized as, assertions of Catholic doctrine.” (May 11, 1963)

    “[Fr.] Ed Hanahoe gave me two books on Modernism. In one of them I found evidence that the teaching in the first chapter of the new schema on the Church [the one that became the Vatican II dogmatic constitution Lumen Gentium] and the language are those of [the excommunicated Modernist Fr. George] Tyrrell. May God preserve His Church from that chapter. If it passes, it will be a great evil. I must pray and act.” (Sept. 24, 1963)

    The sense or feeling of this gathering seems to be entirely liberal. I am anxious to get home. I am afraid that there is nothing at all that I can do here. Being in the council is, of course, the great experience of my life. But, at the same time, it has been a frightful disappointment. I never thought that the episcopate was so liberal. This is going to mark the end of the Catholic religion as we have known it. There will be vernacular Masses, and, worse still, there will be some wretched theology in the constitutions.” (Oct. 31, 1962)

    Found here: and

    Forgive me for abusing the comment box.

  14. Not an abuse at all. Thank you!

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