Truth will out…

“We Christians should embrace with affection and respect Muslim immigrants to our countries in the same way that we hope and ask to be received and respected in countries of Islamic tradition. I ask and I humbly entreat those countries to grant Christians freedom to worship and to practice their faith, in light of the freedom which followers of Islam enjoy in Western countries! Faced with disconcerting episodes of violent fundamentalism, our respect for true followers of Islam should lead us to avoid hateful generalisations, for authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence.” — Evangelii Gaudium §253

I suspect that this musty old definition does not include the ability to determine non-Christian doctrine, but what do I know? #dialogorrhea

HT to the Pertinacious Papist for the video.

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8 Responses to Truth will out…

  1. Crude says:

    A humble question from this lowly Catholic.

    Should we, therefore, make sure to NOT welcome those who follow this apparent heretical, untrue form of Islam? Are they owed less respect, if any at all?

    We hear how we should treat those followers of True Islam. But how do we treat the other ones?

  2. Tony Jokin says:

    I think what we have to realize is that Islam in it’s true form is an anti-Christian (or anti-anything else Muslim) religion that is prepared to use force to eradicate it’s opponents or convert them. That is how their founder did it and that is therefore the ‘intention of the author’ that one has to keep in mind when reading his text called the Quran (claimed to have been preached by him and only transcribed by another). That would be the proper reading of the Quran.

    So the Muslims we refer to as following “True Islam” is not actually the real deal. They are the equivalent of the “moderate Catholic” or the “liberal Catholic” or simply put, the “modernist Catholic”. The respective Imams of these particular groups usually interpret the Quran in some modernist way.

    The way I see it, every Muslim can potentially one day wake up and realize that the Liberal way in which they are interpreting the Quran is wrong and become the radical Muslim. So all Muslims should be converted to the true faith as soon as possible. One might even say, there is immediate temporal motivation in the case of Islam (due to the physical threat to life of non-Muslims) to make sure they abandon their error.

  3. Crude:

    Good point.

    Here’s a tweak: “Faced with [non-]violent fundamentalism, our [dis]respect for [false] followers of Islam should [not] lead us to avoid hateful generalisations, for [in]authentic Islam and the [im]proper reading of the Koran are [inclined] to every form of violence.”

    I don’t see how it falls in the purview of the pope’s magisterium to settle internecine debates proper to Islam.

  4. July/August, “Culture Wars,” p. 26, paragraph, 3 , Dr. E. Michael Jones writes; Mejid Mejidi used this light to spectacular effect in his forthcoming movie on the prophet, peace be upon him.

    Mahomet, if he existed at all, was a psychotic murdering pederast and yet Jones (for reasons that can be surmised) avers in his own periodical that he (Mahomet) is a prophet and he wishes peace be upon him but no matter what one’s reason fro doing so, just what sense does it make to echo the heresies of your new putative Shia friends?

    ABS reads so many statements from Catholics that would not be objected to by the Imans of Al Hazar University (The Holy See for Mahometans) that he realises just how riven the Faith is with a false irenicism.

    There is no excuse for insulting those whom you are are befriending and trying to create an alliance with but when one starts referring to Mahomet as a prophet and when one echoes the doxology of the demented (PBUH) , then one is wandering in the wasteland and, sadly, Dr. Jones will influence many

  5. I’m stunned that Jones would write that way. What did he mean? Tongue in cheek? Or foot in mouth?

  6. Messianism?

    He is trying to form an alliance with the Shia that will oppose the naturalistic internationalism of the Jews but is that even possible given that the Sunni’s are dominant?

    ABS understands there are points of mutuality re pro life, anti-abortion anti pornography etc but to write like that?

    So sad; he is one of my heroes

  7. ABS, I used to subscribe to Culture Wars, but when Jones started to show Pro-Muslim tendencies, I cancelled my subscription two months ago. He has no excuse for his actions, he knows the history of the hatred that the Muslims have for us. He has foolishly allowed the his dislike for one enemy of the Church (the Jews), to cloud his mind about an even worse enemy. (the Muslims) He has also forgotten (willfully, I believe) that Jews and Muslims will cooperate with each other to fight Christians, when it is advantageous to do so. Remember Spain 711 AD! Neither the Jews or the Muslims have changed since then, it is us who have changed, and not for the better!

  8. Tony Jokin says:

    I don’t know if you guys have already seen this but I just saw this video on Islam and thought it was worth sharing.

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