Poor students make for poor teachers…

Francis Speaks, Scalfari Transcribes, Brandmüller Shreds

As a Church historian, the German cardinal refutes the notion according to which clerical celibacy was an invention of the 10th century. No, he objects: its origin is with Jesus and the apostles. And he explains why

by Sandro Magister

… Fr. Lombardi cast doubt on the notion that the pope had proclaimed, with regard to the celibacy of the clergy, “I will find the solutions.”

But he made no objection to the other highly reckless words put into the pope’s mouth, according to which “celibacy was established in the 10th century, 900 years after the death of our Lord.”

A Church historian no less authoritative than German cardinal Walter Brandmüller, for more than twenty years the president of the Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences, in fact felt himself duty-bound to demonstrate the lack of foundation for this idea. …

Scalfari’s previous interview with Francis, which appeared in “La Repubblica” of October 1, 2013, also raised doubts about its reliability. So much so that the following November 15 it was taken down from the official website of the Vatican, where it had been placed among the pope’s discourses and afterward inexplicably reappeared, translated into five languages, only to disappear once again a few days ago.

Scalfari himself admitted that he had accompanied the preliminary draft of that first conversation that he sent to the pope – which did not raise any objections and was published without revision – with a note in which he wrote:

“Keep in mind that some of the things you said to me are not written down here. And that some of the things I attribute to you, you did not say. But I have put them there so that the reader may understand who you are.”

Months later, a second conversation between Scalfari and Francis did not undergo any journalistic “translation,” at the prudential request of the Vatican.

But after the third conversation, which took place last July 10, this time as well without a recording, the pope again gave Scalfari the go-ahead to include his changes, with the results that can be seen.

Please follow the link to the Chiesa website if you wish to read Brandmüller’s letter to Scalfari.

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5 Responses to Poor students make for poor teachers…

  1. Keep an eye on Unam, Sanctam, Catholicam. Boniface will soon be posting a quality column based upon The Apostolic Origins of Priestly Celibacy the definitive book about the matter by Fr Christian Cochini.

    As for what was said by our Bishop of Rome and Our Cross, ABS was going to write that it was an example of ignorance; but is it?

    It could be something sinister as ABS finds it hard to believe he does;t know the truth about celibacy.

  2. in the late fourth century, Pope Siricius’ legislation about continence/celibacy was premised upon the Apostolic Tradition of continence and it demanded of all priests a RETURN to that Apostolic Tradition.

    This 10th century crap about celibacy and property is right out of the pages of protestant polemics and, of course, it has been adopted by millions of Catholics who are NEVER taught the truth about the Faith.

    ABS is no longer even simmering; he is raging and sick to death of his prelates razing the bastions and attacking his church for that is ALL that they are capable of.

  3. Holy Cannoli. Get a load of what ABS read this AM. It is from an 1968 issue of Commentary and it is a paragraph from Michael Novak’s review of The Peasant of the Garonne

    No, ABS did not do a rewrite; this is too damn funny as is:

    What is perhaps most disturbing in this book is Maritain’s lack of serenity. To be sure, he is concerned lest other Christians, especially professors, kneel so devoutly before the spirit of the present age that they “leave three things behind”: the other world, the cross, and sanctity. I wish he were living now in America, and could feel the passionate quest of young people for holiness: reverence for themselves and others, joy, freedom, and a moral integrity strong enough to resist immense social pressures, middle-class conditioning, and prison itself. I wish he could taste the evil young people have encountered in our society, and share in their experience of redemptive suffering. I wish he could fast with them, wear sandals with them, embrace the poverty of resistance with them. I wish he could rejoice in their discovery of contemplation. I wish he could hear their biting rejection of “the spirit of the age.” I do not think our secular society yields to a Christian society in its sanctity. The young may not appeal to the symbol of the cross (in fact, many of them who are not Christians do), but they understand its meaning.

    O, he was a Seminarian when he wrote this…

  4. drprice2 says:

    Wow, that Novak quote. Just…what?

    ’68? Ah, yes–the year that the world the Vatican keeps wanting to dialogue with died. Which makes the continuing efforts to contact that world the equivalent of seances, but no matter.

    The thing is, you could sub out the Maritain references and find similar paeans to the generations which followed the Children of Altamont. Each of them equally-wrongheaded.

  5. Donte says:

    That’s the pefecrt insight in a thread like this.

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