If the shoe fits…


“The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, and bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their Confreres. The Church and altars will be vandalized. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises….” — Our Lady of Akita, Oct. 13, 1973


Cardinal Burke opposes Cardinal Kasper’s proposal for divorced/remarried Catholics


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9 Responses to If the shoe fits…

  1. rubyroad2013 says:

    We are so fortunate. Our canon (I.C.K.S.P), in his sermon today, mentioned Our Lady of Akita, the devil, Pope Leo XIII, St. Michael the Archangel, Cardinal Burke’s interview, contraception, abortion, homosexuality, and co-habitation.

  2. I think it’s too early in his “reign” (for lack of a better term) to say that Pope Francis’s entire papacy can be judged in relation to this one decision, but it’s certainly going to be a massive part of his legacy one way or another, and fair or not (either in praise or blame).

    So, we shall see.

  3. Indeed. As you may know, I’ve sworn off commenting on this papacy (though I think pan-Church issues are still fair game). Even if I hadn’t, though, I wouldn’t be too worked up about the creeping Kasperitis. I am disappointed that the Holy Father has not been more forthright in sidelining Kasper, but ultimately I think the Burke line (i.e. orthodoxy) will win out.

  4. Frankly, I’d be surprised if that line won out. But I don’t know, I’ve dealt with so much bashing of the Church that my mindset is already set on “If doctrine doesn’t change that’s what’s important” mode. So as important an issue as this is, and it IS important, I’m not going to freak out over it. The Church will make bad decisions sometimes, it happens. We fight the good fight regardless.

  5. What bothers me is the (clericalist? ultramontane?) reflex among many Catholics to say that the change DOESN’T matter. Let’s assume that what comes out of the Synod does not compromise any binding doctrine. Still, if the Burke line doesn’t win out, it’s going to demoralize as many committed Catholics as it’s going to galvanize disobedient Catholics. Big sigh.

  6. Oh, I think it matters. Like my reaction with some traditionalist Pope Francis critics initially, though, I think that people who would leave the Church over it are not just overreacting but have a fundamental misunderstanding with how the Church works. If this “pastoral change” goes through I would definitely understand why people might get so demoralized, but if they leave the Church over it they frankly had very deep issues to begin with, whether or not this goes through.

    In a way those people are the most ultramontane of all, because they put so much weight in their faith on what are essentially matters of discipline.

    This hopefully is not coming off as dismissive, because I’m not trying to be. I AM on the record as being VERY MUCH against the proposed change.I sympathize with the demoralized folks and will pray for them, but I do think there are deeper-seated issues there if something like this would cause you to leave the Church.

  7. drprice2 says:

    Malcolm: you strike me as a solid guy who’s willing to listen, so let me respond in kind:

    “I sympathize with the demoralized folks and will pray for them, but I do think there are deeper-seated issues there if something like this would cause you to leave the Church.”

    If there is a deeper-seated issue, I’d surely like to know what it is, because it would be easier for me to address. I’m reminded that G.K. Chesterton’s biggest and most persistent objection to Catholicism was clerical celibacy, of all things. In other words, we all have our own break points, I guess.

    For me, my conversion has been an ongoing, bumpy process from the start, but I like to think I’ve conformed my thinking to the teaching of the Church over time. I’m not the laissez faire libertarian I used to be, and I’ve become more pro-life over time, having eliminated exceptions from abortion and becoming a grim skeptic of capital punishment.

    If Kasper’s proposal goes through, then the Church’s teaching on marriage and sexuality crumbles pretty quickly. We’re not just dealing with the words of the Old Covenant here, this is the voice of Jesus we’re ignoring. Frankly, if Kasper wins, on what grounds does the Church argue against porn–that particularly vicious form of Pavlovian-reaction adultery that is so omnipresent and destructive? Same guy, same words, same injunction.

    It seems to me the stakes couldn’t be any higher.

    That’s where I am. I really hope it’s something else, because being in this situation is quite unpleasant, believe me.

  8. Branch says:


    I don’t know if this will be any consolation, but it was for me: http://triregnum.blogspot.com/2013/10/open-letter-to-papa-francesco-from.html

    United in prayer with you. Please don’t give up.

  9. drprice2 says:

    Let me try it more pithily, Malcolm: I was married in 1999. Let’s bracket for the moment the crucial and wonderful fact that I’m perfectly happy in my marriage–and light years more so than I am with my sense of communion with the Church.

    If the Kasper Fix goes through, can you tell me that the Church would be looking at our marriage vows in exactly the same way she did before the Fix? That there would be no change with the way the Church views and administers the marital sacrament?

    I really don’t see how you could, and you don’t seem to be the type with a BAC-ish read on the Catholic appreciation for reason–e.g., “renewing one’s mind means shutting it off, if the Pope says so.”

    Sure, the ink in the Sacramentary will be unchanged, but the expectations will be decisively different.

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